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Ice_Ice_Brady
the executioner’s face is always well hidden
Get the feeling Rivers is going to ruin his Hall of Fame case. He was a lock to make it. Now, it’s going to be 10 years after his retirement. All those top 10 records (normal at time of retirement due to QB stats always increasing) are going to be in the 25-30 range. And he’s probably going to be remembered as an annoying football guy who always lost rather than a guy who got stuck with a loser franchise.
I never thought he was a sure Hall of Fame QB to begin with. Very good QB but very overrated. Not as good as Big Ben, who I’d put in Hall as the minimum worthy QB of that generation.
I never thought he was a sure Hall of Fame QB to begin with. Very good QB but very overrated. Not as good as Big Ben, who I’d put in Hall as the minimum worthy QB of that generation.
captain stone
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captain stone
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Aden Durde, that post is fake news
captain stone
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Still don't think a reunion there is in the cards, but ya never know...
PATS16N0
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Tom
Peyton
Ben
Rodger’s (also overrated)
Brees (also overrated)
Eli (gets in on giving Brady his two biggest legacy battle scars)
I put Russel Wilson in before Phillip Rivers.
Ice_Ice_Brady
the executioner’s face is always well hidden
When I ran my QB ranking stuff, he was a bit better than I expected due to taking very few sacks. But still far from an elite QB. Including the two SB and two SB MVPs, he was below the HoF line, ranking around #50. Similar overall resume to Joe Namath. He’ll get in but shouldn’t. He’s already gotten way more than his due share of accolades for an average career outside of 8 games where he also didn’t play very well overall but made some lucky / clutch plays.
Ice_Ice_Brady
the executioner’s face is always well hidden
Yep, besides Eli I agree. Well, I agree with you that he will get in but he shouldn’t.
(Very obvious)
Brady
Manning
(Obvious)
Rodgers
(Fairly obvious)
Brees
After that, I’d take Roethlisberger over the likes of Eli, Rivers, Ryan, and Wilson. After Brady and Manning, Roethlisberger was the best clutch QB and didn’t crap his pants.
Here’s how I rank the non-HoF group:
1. Ryan. Good quarterback, sometimes great. Didn’t really carry teams but was a very capable QB. Hall of Very Good at the least.
2. Eli. Has the big highlight moments and a long career. NY is a tough place to play with the media pressure. He did get rid of the ball quickly so his advanced stats are better than his box score stats.
3. Rivers. One of the most frustrating QBs ever. High skill level, perennial loser. Made so many mistakes with game on line. Kind of reminds me of Marino with like 60% of the talent.
4. Wilson. Hot take: Seahawks would have been a dynasty with better QB play. Wilson is one of those guys who score 30 TDs on the season but the team scored 31 and was below average in scoring. Tons of negative plays and sacks. Below average in advanced stats despite often having strong running game. Very reliant on broken plays and deep bombs but sucked at engineering drives. The Seahawks players all understood there was way more sizzle than steak.
One bad interview in which the owner should have just shut his mouth, and that team is in Hell.
