Colts Fans and Peyton Manning’s Legacy.

What's funny is that Manning was always known as having the strong arm during his time, but I've been watching his early games and it's still nowhere to where Brady ended up by 2007.

Brady never had a strong arm. My goodness you people are delusional
 
Maybe you should watch his highlights of his floaters. He's not even top 20 all time in strongest arms.
Strongest wise i agree for the deep ball although his deep ball is underrated
His intermediate stuff though he throws heaters.
 
Strongest wise i agree for the deep ball although his deep ball is underrated
His intermediate stuff though he throws heaters.
His deep ball was never his strength, but it went from liability to reliable in a few short years.

You're right about his zip on the short to mid-range passes ... Only need to watch a few highlights to see it.
 
Maybe you should watch his highlights of his floaters. He's not even top 20 all time in strongest arms.
You mean like this floater on a severe ankle sprain? The alligator arm tactic Moss was doing that season finally caught up to him. That was a pass he needed to jump for. I do agree though that he started floating passes later in his career with the Pats and the Bucs. But, I think it was more of a preference than actually ability.


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His deep ball was never his strength, but it went from liability to reliable in a few short years.

You're right about his zip on the short to mid-range passes ... Only need to watch a few highlights to see it.

Strong enough to win 7 Super Bowls. 63 air yards on a rope right here.

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Strongest wise i agree for the deep ball although his deep ball is underrated
His intermediate stuff though he throws heaters.

Ok I'll concede he was very effective at throwing short to intermediate. But let's not kid ourselves, he's not Brett Favre arm-wise. He was perfect for the system he played in.
 
You mean like this floater on a severe ankle sprain? The alligator arm tactic Moss was doing that season finally caught up to him. That was a pass he needed to jump for. I do agree though that he started floating passes later in his career with the Pats and the Bucs. But, I think it was more of a preference than actually ability.


View: https://youtu.be/YUGj5qQFnnc?si=gqO5yNzkZVTT5Snd


So that's your excuse for losing SB 42? A severe ankle sprain? Wasn't Brady laughing at the Giants D that week? Seemed like he wasn't worried. And in that very clip you showed he's seen jogging comfortably onto the field and then he was able to roll to his right on the deep throw. STop with the excuses.
 
Strong enough to win 7 Super Bowls. 63 air yards on a rope right here.

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Brady won a longest ball competition among QBs one year. The idea that he didn't have a strong arm was never a correct one, just as the idea that he struggled with the deep ball was a myth (He was good with deep ball throws in years he had deep ball receivers, and less so in years when he didn't have them, which is common sense).
 
So that's your excuse for losing SB 42? A severe ankle sprain? Wasn't Brady laughing at the Giants D that week? Seemed like he wasn't worried. And in that very clip you showed he's seen jogging comfortably onto the field and then he was able to roll to his right on the deep throw. STop with the excuses.
We're not talking about the game, we're talking about his arm strength.
 
Ok I'll concede he was very effective at throwing short to intermediate. But let's not kid ourselves, he's not Brett Favre arm-wise. He was perfect for the system he played in.

he's 10x better than Favre, who set the record for most ever interceptions with that amazing arm of his

Brady had a very strong arm, but maybe not elite arm strength... although thats debatable, when you're just trying to compare him to a gunslinger like Favre as the bar for whether someone has a great arm or not

its not a very important factor for QB play, it comes in handy on occasion but as long as you have an above average arm strength its more about accuracy, anticipation, pocket presence, reading defenses, etc.. basically as long as you dont have a chad pennington or mac jones level of arm strength, it doesnt matter

JaMarcus Russel had a monster arm, but he was total dog shit
 
he's 10x better than Favre, who set the record for most ever interceptions with that amazing arm of his

Brady had a very strong arm, but maybe not elite arm strength... although thats debatable, when you're just trying to compare him to a gunslinger like Favre as the bar for whether someone has a great arm or not

its not a very important factor for QB play, it comes in handy on occasion but as long as you have an above average arm strength its more about accuracy, anticipation, pocket presence, reading defenses, etc.. basically as long as you dont have a chad pennington or mac jones level of arm strength, it doesnt matter

JaMarcus Russel had a monster arm, but he was total dog shit

We are debating about arm strength. Brady doesn't measure up to Favre in that department. or elway, marino, mahomes, allen, etc. He had an above average arm strength. nothing wrong with that.
 
We are debating about arm strength. Brady doesn't measure up to Favre in that department. or elway, marino, mahomes, allen, etc. He had an above average arm strength. nothing wrong with that.

above average lol
 
Jeff George had a better arm than Favre or any of the others listed.

He was fucking awesome!


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I forget who the player was who made the claim, but he claimed that Marino and Bledsoe were the only two QBs who's throws he could actually hear whipping by.
 
I forget who the player was who made the claim, but he claimed that Marino and Bledsoe were the only two QBs who's throws he could actually hear whipping by.

Both had guns.

I don't really want to be a part of this fucking retarded strongest arm debate. I am withdrawing my sarcastic Jeff George comment and backing out of this semen splattered thread.
 
I forget who the player was who made the claim, but he claimed that Marino and Bledsoe were the only two QBs who's throws he could actually hear whipping by.

I can't find a player that played under both QB's in the regular season. (Well, AI didn't). However, the 1995 Pro Bowl did have Marino, Bledsoe, and Irving Fryar. According to AI (I asked it to check the Pro Bowl rosters from 1993 through 1999 that had Marino, and to note all WR's on those rosters, then do the same for Bledsoe, and compare and report any WR that appears on both lists. Fryar was the only one.)
 
I can't find a player that played under both QB's in the regular season. (Well, AI didn't). However, the 1995 Pro Bowl did have Marino, Bledsoe, and Irving Fryar. According to AI (I asked it to check the Pro Bowl rosters from 1993 through 1999 that had Marino, and to note all WR's on those rosters, then do the same for Bledsoe, and compare and report any WR that appears on both lists. Fryar was the only one.)


I'm not sure it was someone who was catching the ball. It might have been a defensive player. I just remember the way he separated those two from everyone else in terms of the way the ball flew through the air.
 
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