BB Not voted into the HOF

I know some of you don’t agree, like Deus, but I think that situation is fine. One thing to say if Ortiz shouldn’t be in because he’s a DH but the steroid thing is not the same. Both ARod and Clemens were using well after all of the steroid stuff became highly publicized, and it was extremely clear from the reaction that anyone caught using would be considered tainted.

Ortiz had his name on a list in 2003. Around that time we were still in the shadows of McGuire and Sosa, and not to say that it was OK to be using, but I think people generally got a pass for being on the list then if they weren’t caught again, which Ortiz wasn’t. Of course that wasn’t really upheld consistently given that McGwire and Sosa didn’t get into the hall. But both of them strongly denied it when they were in the spotlight in the late 90s too.

Ortiz kind of got a pass because he continued to play well for another decade and supposedly was clean during that time. Also, the 2003 list was problematic. Bonds and Clemens had way more evidence of long-term use.

I don’t really care that much. This is just my basic take, but I think everyone gives way too much respect to the Hall of Fame in all the sports. It’s just the opinions of people who are generally not very bright so we really should just ignore it and not give it so much reaction and hope it just dies down.


Roger Clemens never tested positive for illegal substances.
Rogers Clemens won at trial.


Sorry, but there is literally no legitimate excuse to keep Clemens out of the HOF. "I think he did it" is not a legitimate excuse.
 
The Colts are such fucking trash and so are their white trash fans!
 


Count Tom Brady and Robert Kraft among the swarm of prominent football figures to speak out in dismay after longtime New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick fell short of the voting threshold required for Pro Football Hall of Fame induction. Brady, who won six of his seven Super Bowls under Belichick's tutelage, called the snub from first-ballot induction "completely ridiculous" and lamented the selection process after his former coach fell short of the required 40 out of 50 votes.

Belichick became Hall of Fame-eligible this year because he has not coached in the NFL since 2023. He will be back up for nomination as part of the 2027 class, but that he missed out on joining the illustrious fraternity in his first year on the ballot left the football world puzzled.

"I don't understand it," Brady said during a Seattle Sports radio appearance. "I was with him every day. If he's not a first-ballot Hall of Famer, there's really no coach that should ever be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. Which is completely ridiculous, because people deserve it. He's incredible. There's no coach I'd rather play for. If I'm taking one coach to go out there to win a Super Bowl, give me one season, I'm taking Bill Belichick. So that's enough said."

Kraft, the Patriots' owner since 1994, joined Brady in calling into question how Belichick could possibly not make it on his first ballot. Kraft and Belichick ended their tenure working together on icy terms, but Kraft still calls him the "greatest coach of all time" and said he should have been a unanimous selection this year.

"Whatever perceptions may exist about any personal differences between Bill and me, I strongly believe Bill Belichick's record and body of work speak for themselves," Kraft told the Associated Press. "As head coach of the New England Patriots for more than two decades, he set the standard for on-field excellence, preparation, and sustained success in the free agency and salary cap era of the National Football League. He is the greatest coach of all time and he unequivocally deserves to be a unanimous first-ballot Pro Football Hall of Famer."

Kraft is also a finalist in the contributor category for the Pro Football Hall of Fame this year, as he hopes to finally get selected after also falling short numerous times due to the various controversies during the Patriots' dynastic run. With Belichick now getting the same treatment, one can't help but wonder if Brady's first time on the ballot will be met with similar resistance.

Bill Belichick snubbed by Hall of Fame: We now can't rule out the possibility of Tom Brady meeting same fate
Tyler Sullivan
Bill Belichick snubbed by Hall of Fame: We now can't rule out the possibility of Tom Brady meeting same fate

From an accolades standpoint, there is no justification for voters excluding Belichick from their ballots. He set a head coaching record with six Super Bowl wins and added two more as an assistant, leads all coaches with 12 Super Bowl appearances, ranks second all time with 333 career wins and holds more playoff victories (31) than any coach in league history.


Belichick's implication in multiple scandals during his Patriots tenure are essentially the only knocks against his résumé and were enough for multiple voters to pass over him as a first-ballot inductee. One voter said to ESPN that the scandals "really bothered some of the guys."

"When it comes down to votes and popularity and all that, welcome to the world of voting," Brady said. "You may as well go try for the Oscars or whatever and get a big panel to tell you if you're good or not. It's the way it works, unfortunately."

Only four coaches have been enshrined as first-ballot Hall of Famers since 1970. There has been a movement to keep Belichick out of that group because of Spygate and Deflategate, and enough voters shared the sentiment that he ought to wait a year.

Belichick will almost certainly get into the Hall next year after paying the price for his controversies. But that he has to wait a year and that his legacy will always be slightly tarnished by his lack of first-ballot status raises questions about the validity of the voting process itself.

"He's going to get into the Hall of Fame," Brady said. "In the end, I'm not worried about that. A lot of times in life, for all of us, things don't happen exactly how you want them on your timeline. But we'll all be there to celebrate him when it does happen. He's going to have a huge turnout from so many players, coaches that appreciated everything that he did and the commitment that he made to winning and the impact that he had on all our lives. That will be a great celebration when it happens."
 
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