BB Not voted into the HOF



i didnt even know Rob Parker was still a thing in the sports world

that guy is the leader of the clowns, just always has rage bait takes on everything with a smirk on his face.. one of the most irrelevant people in sports media, im amazed he's still around

and the audacity for him to imply he should have a HOF vote lol, the guy with absolutely zero shame or credibility
 
I just can’t even imagine the level of anal bleeding from Polian that he would go to these lengths. I don’t even think the biggest Twitter, trolls and patriot haters who live 24 seven to diminish whatever the team does would even consider passing on Belichick or Brady as a first ballot Hall of Famer..
Reminds me of David Ortiz who got in first ballot because he was beloved by the media and Arod and Roger are still waiting.
 
Reminds me of David Ortiz who got in first ballot because he was beloved by the media and Arod and Roger are still waiting.
I know some of you don’t agree, like Deus, but I think that situation is fine. One thing to say if Ortiz shouldn’t be in because he’s a DH but the steroid thing is not the same. Both ARod and Clemens were using well after all of the steroid stuff became highly publicized, and it was extremely clear from the reaction that anyone caught using would be considered tainted.

Ortiz had his name on a list in 2003. Around that time we were still in the shadows of McGuire and Sosa, and not to say that it was OK to be using, but I think people generally got a pass for being on the list then if they weren’t caught again, which Ortiz wasn’t. Of course that wasn’t really upheld consistently given that McGwire and Sosa didn’t get into the hall. But both of them strongly denied it when they were in the spotlight in the late 90s too.

Ortiz kind of got a pass because he continued to play well for another decade and supposedly was clean during that time. Also, the 2003 list was problematic. Bonds and Clemens had way more evidence of long-term use.

I don’t really care that much. This is just my basic take, but I think everyone gives way too much respect to the Hall of Fame in all the sports. It’s just the opinions of people who are generally not very bright so we really should just ignore it and not give it so much reaction and hope it just dies down.
 
I know some of you don’t agree, like Deus, but I think that situation is fine. One thing to say if Ortiz shouldn’t be in because he’s a DH but the steroid thing is not the same. Both ARod and Clemens were using well after all of the steroid stuff became highly publicized, and it was extremely clear from the reaction that anyone caught using would be considered tainted.

Ortiz had his name on a list in 2003. Around that time we were still in the shadows of McGuire and Sosa, and not to say that it was OK to be using, but I think people generally got a pass for being on the list then if they weren’t caught again, which Ortiz wasn’t. Of course that wasn’t really upheld consistently given that McGwire and Sosa didn’t get into the hall. But both of them strongly denied it when they were in the spotlight in the late 90s too.

Ortiz kind of got a pass because he continued to play well for another decade and supposedly was clean during that time. Also, the 2003 list was problematic. Bonds and Clemens had way more evidence of long-term use.

I don’t really care that much. This is just my basic take, but I think everyone gives way too much respect to the Hall of Fame in all the sports. It’s just the opinions of people who are generally not very bright so we really should just ignore it and not give it so much reaction and hope it just dies down.
Sound points and I don't disagree. I was more poiting to nuance than the actual evidence. I think if Ortiz was an A-hole like Arod and Roger and Bill B than they use that 2003 test against him to keep him out. They don't give him the benefit of the doubt and they hide behind that he was a DH. That is my main point. I think if Bill and TO for that matter were not complete Aholes they get in first ballot.
 
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4 Lord Maye 119W188L 39% DB 273,300,001
5 TB12 Goat 111W174L 39% DB 245,000,001
6 Deus Irae 207W230L 47% DB 220,651,329
7 Kontradiction 457W586L 44% DB 200,000,000
8 PM15 28W50L 36% DB 188,750,000
9 Gumpboy45 90W149L 38% DB 164,394,202
10 HSanders 112W149L 43% DB 156,398,335
11 Lord Chevy 158W289L 35% DB 113,750,000
12 The Patriot 149W171L 47% DB 86,105,001
13 LordSensei1958 415W608L 41% DB 35,000,001
14 Jack Bauer 51W56L 48% DB 27,635,002
15 CM Punk 21W34L 38% DB 21,150,001
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🥈 Dingleberry 337W344L 49% DB 535,000,002
🥉 Ford Prefect 120W172L 41% DB 315,650,001
4 Lord Maye 119W188L 39% DB 273,300,001
5 TB12 Goat 111W174L 39% DB 245,000,001
6 Deus Irae 207W230L 47% DB 220,651,329
7 Kontradiction 457W586L 44% DB 200,000,000
8 PM15 28W50L 36% DB 188,750,000
9 Gumpboy45 90W149L 38% DB 164,394,202
10 HSanders 112W149L 43% DB 156,398,335
11 Lord Chevy 158W289L 35% DB 113,750,000
12 The Patriot 149W171L 47% DB 86,105,001
13 LordSensei1958 415W608L 41% DB 35,000,001
14 Jack Bauer 51W56L 48% DB 27,635,002
15 CM Punk 21W34L 38% DB 21,150,001
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