Tom Brady & Patriots Dynasty Divinity Thread
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Julian Edelman and Matthew Slater joined the growing list of current and former New England Patriots players unhappy with Apple TV+'s docuseries, "The Dynasty."
The Patriots greats shared their gripes with the series on the latest episode of Edelman's podcast, "Games With Names." Both Edelman and Slater, who were interviewed for "The Dynasty," took issue with their longtime head coach Bill Belichick being portrayed negatively.
"I know there are some comments that I made on there that made it seem like Bill was just this very demanding presence -- and he was. But I also want people to see that there are multiple sides of Bill," Slater said. "And it's tough because I feel like he's being portrayed in a certain light. And we're painting a picture, but we're only showing people part of the picture.
"With Coach, it's very complex. And there are things that, you know, were tough, and I'm sure we all feel like, 'Hey, maybe we wish we had done things this way.' But let's make sure none of us forget the fact that the dynasty is not even being talked about without Bill Belichick. And the things that he did were with intentionality and purpose, and I think he got the best out of all of us."
Edelman agreed with Slater's point, nothing that Belichick's tough love made his players better on and off the field.
"I honestly think if you're in your 30s and you've played football, I don't think you've ever liked your football coach. You loved him. But you didn't like your football coach," he said. "Just like I didn't like my parents when they made me do things that they knew was gonna make me a better person.
"I didn't like doing it, we didn't like doing it, work's not easy, doing the little s--- for preparation, doing walkthroughs for walkthroughs for walkthroughs, I hated it. I bitched about it all the time. But we needed it. And that's why you went into every single game knowing you outprepared that team and you have a shot to win. Every single game."
"The Dynasty" has drawn widespread criticism for its portrayal of Belichick. Former Pats safeties Devin McCourty and Rodney Harrison recently voiced their displeasure with the docuseries, as did team owner Robert Kraft at the NFL owners meetings on Tuesday.
Regardless of how Belichick's story is told in the series, his legacy as arguably the greatest head coach in NFL history is untouched. All that matters is the six Super Bowl titles he brought to New England in 20 years, an unprecedented accomplishment that may never be repeated in the NFL.
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The Patriots greats shared their gripes with the series on the latest episode of Edelman's podcast, "Games With Names." Both Edelman and Slater, who were interviewed for "The Dynasty," took issue with their longtime head coach Bill Belichick being portrayed negatively.
"I know there are some comments that I made on there that made it seem like Bill was just this very demanding presence -- and he was. But I also want people to see that there are multiple sides of Bill," Slater said. "And it's tough because I feel like he's being portrayed in a certain light. And we're painting a picture, but we're only showing people part of the picture.
"With Coach, it's very complex. And there are things that, you know, were tough, and I'm sure we all feel like, 'Hey, maybe we wish we had done things this way.' But let's make sure none of us forget the fact that the dynasty is not even being talked about without Bill Belichick. And the things that he did were with intentionality and purpose, and I think he got the best out of all of us."
Edelman agreed with Slater's point, nothing that Belichick's tough love made his players better on and off the field.
"I honestly think if you're in your 30s and you've played football, I don't think you've ever liked your football coach. You loved him. But you didn't like your football coach," he said. "Just like I didn't like my parents when they made me do things that they knew was gonna make me a better person.
"I didn't like doing it, we didn't like doing it, work's not easy, doing the little s--- for preparation, doing walkthroughs for walkthroughs for walkthroughs, I hated it. I bitched about it all the time. But we needed it. And that's why you went into every single game knowing you outprepared that team and you have a shot to win. Every single game."
"The Dynasty" has drawn widespread criticism for its portrayal of Belichick. Former Pats safeties Devin McCourty and Rodney Harrison recently voiced their displeasure with the docuseries, as did team owner Robert Kraft at the NFL owners meetings on Tuesday.
Regardless of how Belichick's story is told in the series, his legacy as arguably the greatest head coach in NFL history is untouched. All that matters is the six Super Bowl titles he brought to New England in 20 years, an unprecedented accomplishment that may never be repeated in the NFL.
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HSanders HSanders
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fuck kraft...it was his production. he's probably getting blowback from people about how it treated bb so he's trying to put the genie back in the bottle.
jules nailed it...love/hate. i truly believe he gets it more because his dad was the same type of hardass as bb.
jules nailed it...love/hate. i truly believe he gets it more because his dad was the same type of hardass as bb.
Dante had it figured out right from the beginning..
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HSanders HSanders
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damn fine point from my favorite non hc ever.
Ok, I get that not everyone is happy with the documentary. That should surprise nobody on the planet, but you're pretty much never going to have complete happiness and agreement on any documentary involving controversy. But I'm getting tired of the complainers talking about not having everything they said in the documentary, or not everyone having been interviewed. I mean, this is not the first time any of these people have dealt with film crews, so they knew how this was going to work. And, given that the documentary is based on the book, they knew the way the "tone" was likely to go, too.
So, I'm not telling them that they need to shut the fuck up, but I'm telling them that they knew what was coming, and they should just be responding with some of the positive things they claim to have said, rather than bitching because someone else didn't make the exact same documentary that they would have. It's become embarrassing to listen to them at this point.
So, I'm not telling them that they need to shut the fuck up, but I'm telling them that they knew what was coming, and they should just be responding with some of the positive things they claim to have said, rather than bitching because someone else didn't make the exact same documentary that they would have. It's become embarrassing to listen to them at this point.
HSanders HSanders
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if the book is called "the dynasty" they should have spoken to guys like scar,fears,rac and weis. period. no excuses.
Why? Why not some guy who just made one tackle in 2008, but had a really cool story about Brady/BB/Kraft?
There were only 3 essential people for the documentary. You needed Brady, Belichick, and Kraft. Everyone else was gravy. And let me make it clear that I'm not defending the documentary itself. I'm just responding to all the complaining about things that the complainers understood going into it. Nobody gets interviewed for 5 hours and then gets all 5 hours put into a documentary.
HSanders HSanders
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granted i haven't watched it.and i get there was no need to rehash the "3 games to glory" dvds but rather dig past that. but those guys all put together likely would have had a bunch of cool stories to share about the other 3. things that foreshadowed the dynasty portion since some worked for kraft pre bb and bb pre kraft. showing how everything coalesced.but maybe that wasn't the purpose of the doc.
as far as 5 hours turning into a negative minute,it seems to me that the guys were more pissed that it seemed sensationalized because of only the negative being used.
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Superbowl 49 will forever be to me the greatest game ever played and our team got the job done
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