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The New England Patriots advanced to their 12th Super Bowl and 11th under Robert Kraft, the most in NFL history. New England has a chance to break a tie with Pittsburgh (six) and win their seventh Super Bowl, which would be the most Super Bowl titles in NFL history. The Patriots will face the Seattle Seahawks in the Super Bowl for the second time. The Patriots defeated Seattle, 28-24, in Super Bowl XLIX on February 1, 2015. The 2025 Patriots finished the season tied with the Denver Broncos and the Seattle Seahawks for the best record in the NFL with a 14-3 record to earn the No. 2 seed in the AFC Playoffs. The 14-3 record is a 10-game difference from the 4-13 finish in 2024. The 10-game improvement tied the 1999 Indianapolis Colts and the 2008 Miami Dolphins for the best turnaround in NFL history. The 1998 Colts were 3-13 and improved to 13-3 in 1999, and the 2007 Dolphins were 1-15 in 2007 and improved to 11-5 in 2008.

PATRIOTS IN THE SUPER BOWL

The New England Patriots will play in their 12th Super Bowl overall.

HISTORY OF REMATCHES

Super Bowl LX with the Patriots and the Seahawks will be a Super Bowl rematch. The Patriots and Seahawks met previously in Super Bowl XLIX, a 28-24 New England win. There have now been 10 total Super Bowl rematches, and the Patriots have been involved in four of them, after facing the N.Y. Giants twice, the St. Louis/L.A. Rams twice, the Philadelphia Eagles twice and now the Seattle Seahawks twice. Dallas and Pittsburgh have played in three Super Bowls against each other.

SERIES HISTORY

The New England Patriots and Seattle Seahawks will meet in a Super Bowl for the second time. The Patriots won Super Bowl XLIX against Seattle with a 28-24 victory at the University of Phoenix Stadium on Feb. 1, 2015.
This will be the 21st overall meeting between the two teams. Seattle leads the all-time series 11-9. The Patriots have lost the last three regular season meetings, including a 23-20 overtime loss on Sept. 15, 2024 in Week 2 last season at Gillette Stadium.
Seattle joins San Francisco and Philadelphia as the only teams to have a winning record against New England at Gillette Stadium.
The Patriots and Seahawks played 12 times in a 14-year span from 1980-93, but have played only seven times since then (2004, '08, '12, '16, '20, '24 and Super Bowl XLIX).

SERIES BREAKDOWN

NEW ENGLAND 9, SEATTLE 11 (Including New England's SB XLIX Win)
Home Record: 4-7

  • Gillette Stadium: 1-2
  • Foxboro Stadium: 0-3
  • Sullivan Stadium: 2-2
  • Schaefer Stadium: 1-0
Road Record: 4-4
  • Kingdome: 3-2
  • Qwest Field: 1-0
  • CenturyLink Field: 0-2
Neutral Site: 1-0
Total Points in the Series:
Patriots 423, Seahawks 408

QUICK HITS

The Seahawks are the only non-divisional team that the Patriots have played twice in the regular season in the same year. That scheduling oddity took place during the 1993 season, the only year in which the league's 16-game schedule was played over an 18-week span and each team was allotted two bye weeks.

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FORMER PATRIOTS
Players

  • TE Eric Saubert (2019)
Coach
  • Strength & Conditioning Asst. Grant Steen (2004-05)
  • Quarterbacks Coach Charles London (2005)
FORMER SEAHAWKS
Players

  • C Ben Brown (2023)
  • TE Marshall Lang (2025)
Coach
  • Offensive Asst. Chuckie Keeton (2024)

WHAT TO LOOK FOR

  • The Patriots will play in an NFL record 12th Super Bowl after capturing the AFC Championship with a 10-7 win at Denver. The Patriots are 6-5 in Super Bowls.
  • A victory in Super Bowl LX will give the Patriots their seventh NFL title and the most Super Bowl wins in NFL history. The team is currently tied with Pittsburgh with six Super Bowl wins.
  • The 2025 Patriots improved from a 4-13 record in 2024 to a 14-3 record in 2025. They are the 15th team to reach the Super Bowl a year after finishing with a losing season. The Patriots have done that two other times in their history, reaching the Super Bowl in 1996 after a 6-10 finish the year before and reaching the Super Bowl in 2001 a year after finishing with a 5-11 record.
  • With a victory in Super Bowl LX, the Patriots will join the 1981 San Francisco 49ers, the 1999 St. Louis Rams, the 2001 New England Patriots, the 2017 Philadelphia Eagles and the 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the only teams to follow a losing record with a Super Bowl victory.
  • The Patriots are the sixth team to have reached a Super Bowl after winning five or fewer games the previous year. The Rams and Patriots were the only teams to win the Super Bowl from that group.
  • New England became the ninth team to go from "worst to first" and make the Super Bowl in the same season, joining the Cincinnati Bengals (1981, 1988 and 2021), St. Louis Rams (1999), New England Patriots (2001), Carolina Panthers (2003), New Orleans Saints (2009) and Philadelphia Eagles (2017). Of that group, the Rams, Patriots, Eagles and Saints won the Super Bowl.
  • Super Bowl LX with the Patriots and the Seahawks will be a Super Bowl rematch. The Patriots and Seahawks met previously in Super Bowl XLIX, a 28-24 New England win. There have been 10 total Super Bowl rematches, and the Patriots have been involved in four of them, after facing the N.Y. Giants twice, the St. Louis/L.A. Rams twice, the Philadelphia Eagles twice and now the Seattle Seahawks twice. Dallas and Pittsburgh have played in three Super Bowls against each other.
  • The Patriots enter this week with the most postseason wins in NFL history and will look to add to that total with a win in Super Bowl LX.
  • The Patriots are 9-0 on the road in 2025, 8-0 in the regular season and 1-0 in the postseason. They are the first team in NFL history to play at least nine games on the road and win them all. Three other teams have won at least nine road games. The 2007 Giants won 10 road games, and the 2020 Buccaneers and 2005 Steelers each won nine, but those teams were not undefeated on the road. The Patriots can become the first team to both win 10 games and be undefeated on the road with a win in Super Bowl LX (including neutral site games).
  • The New England Patriots have won 36 playoff games since Robert Kraft bought the franchise in 1994. The 36 wins rank third among ownership groups in NFL history and are the most by any team since he entered the NFL.
  • Robert Kraft has 36 career postseason wins, which are tied with the Rooney family for the second-most postseason wins in NFL history. With a victory in Super Bowl LX, Kraft will tie the Green Bay Packers with the most postseason wins all-time with 37 wins.
  • Kraft earned his 11th conference championship with the AFC Championship win at Denver. His 11 conference championships are the most by an owner in the Super Bowl era.
  • Mike Vrabel is one of seven head coaches that won a Super Bowl for a team and then became the head coach of that team. Vrabel won three Super Bowls during his seven seasons as a player for the Patriots. The other coaches to win a Super Bowl for a team and then become the head coach for that team are Jerod Mayo (Patriots), Forrest Gregg (Green Bay), Bart Starr (Green Bay), Art Shell (Oakland), Jeff Saturday (Indianapolis) and Jason Garrett (Dallas). Vrabel can become the first of that group to lead his team to a Super Bowl victory.
  • Vrabel became the seventh head coach to lead the team he played for to a Super Bowl berth, joining Don Shula (Super Bowl III with Baltimore), Tom Flores (Super Bowl XV and Super Bowl XVIII with the Raiders), Mike Ditka (Super Bowl XX with Chicago), Sam Wyche (Super Bowl XXIII with Cincinnati), Gary Kubiak (Super Bowl 50 with Denver) and Doug Pederson (Super Bowl LII with Philadelphia).
  • Vrabel is the eighth head coach to lead his team to the Super Bowl in his first season with the team.
  • Vrabel is now one of eight head coaches that played in a Super Bowl and then reached a Super Bowl as a head coach.
  • Vrabel tied George Seifert (17 wins in 1989 with San Francisco) for the most wins by an NFL head coach in his first season with a team, including the postseason. A win in Super Bowl LX will give Vrabel the most wins by a head coach in his first season with a team.
  • WR Stefon Diggs has played in 17 postseason games and has 80 receptions for 982 yards and 5 touchdowns. He needs 18 postseason yards to become the 19th NFL player to reach 1,000 postseason yards. Julian Edelman and Rob Gronkowski are the only Patriots to eclipse the mark. Diggs is currently 20th on the NFL's all-time postseason list for receiving yards. He is currently tied for 12th with 80 postseason receptions and needs 6 postseason receptions to move past Andre Reed (85 postseason receptions) into the top 10 for most postseason receptions in NFL history.
  • Diggs has four career 100-yard receiving games in the postseason and needs one more to become the 10th player with at least five.
  • DT Milton Williams will play in his second consecutive Super Bowl. He played in Super Bowl LIX with Philadelphia last season and helped the Eagles beat Kansas City with 7 total tackles, 2 sacks, 1 forced fumble, 1 fumble recovery and 4 quarterback pressures.
  • QB Drake Maye will join Dan Marino (1984) and Ben Roethlisberger (2005) as the only quarterbacks to start the Super Bowl before their 24th birthday. Maye will be 23 years and 162 days, and only Dan Marino at 23 years and 127 days was younger. A victory in Super Bowl LX will make him the youngest starting quarterback to win the title. Roethlisberger, who was 23 years and 340 days when he won in 2005, is currently the youngest.
  • Maye is the fourth quarterback since 2000 to win each of his first three career playoff starts, joining Tom Brady (won first 10 starts), Joe Burrow (three) and Jake Delhomme (three).
  • Maye is the first quarterback in history to win three games against top-five defenses in a single playoff. The Chargers had the No. 5 defense, the Texans No. 1, and the Broncos No. 2. In Super Bowl LX, he will face the sixth-ranked Seattle Seahawks defense.
 

Turning Point USA has finally explained how people can watch its planned alternative Super Bowl halftime show. The update comes after months of confusion and doubt about whether the event would actually happen.


The conservative group announced the show last fall after the NFL chose Bad Bunny as the Super Bowl LX halftime performer. Some conservatives criticized that decision and called for a boycott. TPUSA responded by promoting its own event, calling it “The All-American Halftime Show,” which it said would focus on faith, family, and freedom.

For months, TPUSA shared almost no details. It did not name performers, and it did not say where the show would take place. Moreover, it also did not explain how viewers could watch. That lack of information led to a lot of online speculation.


This week, TPUSA finally spoke up. The group shared how the show will be streamed. However, it still has not revealed who will perform.

TPUSA Streaming Plans Emerge, Details Still Missing​

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TPUSA says its show will stream live on several platforms. People can watch it on TPUSA’s YouTube channel and Charlie Kirk’s YouTube channel. It will also stream on TPUSA’s pages on X and Rumble.




The group also named several TV networks and streaming outlets that plan to carry the show. These include The Daily Wire, Real America’s Voice, Trinity Broadcasting Network, Charge!, The National News Desk, New Tang Dynasty, and One America News. TPUSA shared this list on its website and social media.


View: https://x.com/TPUSA/status/2015590527950057851?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2015590527950057851%7Ctwgr%5E572557f39fe6fcbf6ddb1bbde424cd8adf193d5a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.totalprosports.com%2Fnfl%2Fturning-point-usa-releases-details-how-to-watch-their-super-bowl-halftime-show%2F

Even with the Super Bowl just days away, TPUSA still has not named any performers. A spokesperson said earlier this month that artists will not be revealed until the show starts. That has not changed. The group has also shared no details about the production. The website still says, “more info & musical artists to be announced.”

The lack of details has raised more questions. TPUSA has not released previews, clips, or rehearsal footage. It has not said whether the show will be live or pre-recorded.

Despite that, TPUSA leaders say they are confident. They continue to promote the event as an alternative to the NFL halftime show. Charlie Kirk has described it as a pushback against mainstream media culture, and supporters have backed that message online.


The NFL has not commented on TPUSA’s plans and remains focused on its own Super Bowl coverage.

For now, viewers know where to watch. What the show will actually look like is still unknown.
 


Josh Allen believes the Super Bowl probably would have looked very different this year if he made one more play in the divisional round playoff game between the Buffalo Bills and Denver Broncos.

The Bills' star quarterback turned the ball over four times, including two interceptions and two fumbles at Empower Field. After the loss, the Bills decided to fire their head coach, Sean McDermott. When speaking with the media, Allen admitted he feels partially responsible for McDermott's fate and the team being at home for the Super Bowl.

"I'd be lying to you if I'm sitting here saying that I feel like I had part in it because if I make one more play, that game in Denver, we're probably not having this press conference right now," said Allen. "We're probably not making a change. In all honesty, we're probably getting ready to play another game."


Patriots fans won't like that last line.

Allen sounds pretty confident that the Bills would have gone into Foxborough and beaten the Patriots for a second time this season. And to be fair, who knows what would have happened in the rubber match between Maye and Allen?


We can only go on what actually happened.
 


Josh Allen believes the Super Bowl probably would have looked very different this year if he made one more play in the divisional round playoff game between the Buffalo Bills and Denver Broncos.

The Bills' star quarterback turned the ball over four times, including two interceptions and two fumbles at Empower Field. After the loss, the Bills decided to fire their head coach, Sean McDermott. When speaking with the media, Allen admitted he feels partially responsible for McDermott's fate and the team being at home for the Super Bowl.

"I'd be lying to you if I'm sitting here saying that I feel like I had part in it because if I make one more play, that game in Denver, we're probably not having this press conference right now," said Allen. "We're probably not making a change. In all honesty, we're probably getting ready to play another game."


Patriots fans won't like that last line.

Allen sounds pretty confident that the Bills would have gone into Foxborough and beaten the Patriots for a second time this season. And to be fair, who knows what would have happened in the rubber match between Maye and Allen?


We can only go on what actually happened.
Pretty mild to me. I expect the leader of any team to show a confident front. Yes, he's got some tunnel vision with regard to the Cook no-catch. Not a guarantee of changing the outcome, but still pretty big.
 
Pretty mild to me. I expect the leader of any team to show a confident front. Yes, he's got some tunnel vision with regard to the Cook no-catch. Not a guarantee of changing the outcome, but still pretty big.
Kind of rubs me the wrong way. Saying the Bills would be playing next week, like the Patriots were shit and couldn't give them a game.
 
Kind of rubs me the wrong way. Saying the Bills would be playing next week, like the Patriots were shit and couldn't give them a game.
I didn't take it that way.I took it as if he had made one more play in denver they would have been advancing to the af c championship game.
 
I didn't take it that way.I took it as if he had made one more play in denver they would have been advancing to the af c championship game.
"if I make one more play, that game in Denver, we're probably not having this press conference right now," said Allen. "We're probably not making a change. In all honesty, we're probably getting ready to play another game."

The only game right now is the Super Bowl. That means he figures they'd win the AFC Championship if they're getting ready to play another game..
 
Here's my reasoning:
mcdermott got fired right after the denver game. he's saying if he'd made one more play in the Denver game McDermott wouldn't have been fired and they would have been getting ready to play the next game which is the truth. they wouldn't have fired him after the Denver game if they had won it.
After studying italian for so long, I can tell you that this type of vagueness is part of the english language and is not part of a lot of other languages like italian where the usage of their verbs is much more precise in telling you the exact sequence of time in which things happened.
 
Here's my reasoning:
mcdermott got fired right after the denver game. he's saying if he'd made one more play in the Denver game McDermott wouldn't have been fired and they would have been getting ready to play the next game which is the truth. they wouldn't have fired him after the Denver game if they had won it.
After studying italian for so long, I can tell you that this type of vagueness is part of the english language and is not part of a lot of other languages like italian where the usage of their verbs is much more precise in telling you the exact sequence of time in which things happened.
I see what you're saying. I'm reading it that when he says "right now", he means currently getting ready to play again. The writer felt the same way. But it is kind of a confusing statement.
 
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🥇 Lord Guts 201W337L 37% DB 602,500,000
🥈 Dingleberry 337W344L 49% DB 535,000,002
🥉 Ford Prefect 120W172L 41% DB 315,650,001
4 Lord Maye 119W188L 39% DB 273,300,001
5 TB12 Goat 111W174L 39% DB 245,000,001
6 Deus Irae 207W230L 47% DB 220,651,329
7 Kontradiction 457W586L 44% DB 200,000,000
8 PM15 28W50L 36% DB 188,750,000
9 Gumpboy45 90W149L 38% DB 164,394,202
10 HSanders 112W149L 43% DB 156,398,335
11 Lord Chevy 158W289L 35% DB 113,750,000
12 The Patriot 149W171L 47% DB 86,105,001
13 LordSensei1958 415W608L 41% DB 35,000,001
14 Jack Bauer 51W56L 48% DB 27,635,002
15 CM Punk 21W34L 38% DB 21,150,001
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🥇 Lord Guts 201W337L 37% DB 602,500,000
🥈 Dingleberry 337W344L 49% DB 535,000,002
🥉 Ford Prefect 120W172L 41% DB 315,650,001
4 Lord Maye 119W188L 39% DB 273,300,001
5 TB12 Goat 111W174L 39% DB 245,000,001
6 Deus Irae 207W230L 47% DB 220,651,329
7 Kontradiction 457W586L 44% DB 200,000,000
8 PM15 28W50L 36% DB 188,750,000
9 Gumpboy45 90W149L 38% DB 164,394,202
10 HSanders 112W149L 43% DB 156,398,335
11 Lord Chevy 158W289L 35% DB 113,750,000
12 The Patriot 149W171L 47% DB 86,105,001
13 LordSensei1958 415W608L 41% DB 35,000,001
14 Jack Bauer 51W56L 48% DB 27,635,002
15 CM Punk 21W34L 38% DB 21,150,001
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