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Kelvin Banks had a pretty good rookie year

2nd in the NFL among rookie offensive lineman

i wonder who #1 was? that team would be so lucky to get the best rookie left tackle in the NFL

oh wait....
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do you truly believe 2 inches of arm length changes his performance in that game? that he suddenly doesn't get forklifted straight back into the QB repeatedly? that he doesnt get turnstiled on all those blitzes?

when we have film of his arm length causing a problem, then we can have that conversation

he had tons of problems in the superbowl... enough problems to make me want to puke all over myself... but 1-2 inches of arm length were not 1 of them
As I posted above matt light had short arms.I had to go and look and see what it was because I remember people bitching about it back then.He and will campbell are exactly three eighths of an inch difference.
 
As I posted above matt light had short arms.I had to go and look and see what it was because I remember people bitching about it back then.He and will campbell are exactly three eighths of an inch difference.
Yes, but Matt Light was a second round pick. Will Campbell was the fourth overall pick who is expected to have all pro talent and that is why there was so much discussion and debate about this. Also, I really like Matt Light but he was never really an elite player. Most people outside of Boston do not really know him well or associate him as a key player during the dynasty. He was solid, but not a great memorable player. Being the left tackle, having consistency and durability, along with his personality are the main reasons he is so well liked and regarded locally. That he was injured, but still a player drafted that high should never be the absolute worst player on the field and put up a historically bad performance like that.

My grade for this pick so far goes from a B plus to a C. That’s how bad he was.
 
Yes, but Matt Light was a second round pick. Will Campbell was the fourth overall pick who is expected to have all pro talent and that is why there was so much discussion and debate about this. Also, I really like Matt Light but he was never really an elite player. Most people outside of Boston do not really know him well or associate him as a key player during the dynasty. He was solid, but not a great memorable player. Being the left tackle, having consistency and durability, along with his personality are the main reasons he is so well liked and regarded locally. That he was injured, but still a player drafted that high should never be the absolute worst player on the field and put up a historically bad performance like that.

My grade for this pick so far goes from a B plus to a C. That’s how bad he was.
I would be surprised if many people would be unhappy if campbell had a matt light like career. would you be?
 
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Yes, but Matt Light was a second round pick. Will Campbell was the fourth overall pick who is expected to have all pro talent and that is why there was so much discussion and debate about this. Also, I really like Matt Light but he was never really an elite player. Most people outside of Boston do not really know him well or associate him as a key player during the dynasty. He was solid, but not a great memorable player. Being the left tackle, having consistency and durability, along with his personality are the main reasons he is so well liked and regarded locally. That he was injured, but still a player drafted that high should never be the absolute worst player on the field and put up a historically bad performance like that.

My grade for this pick so far goes from a B plus to a C. That’s how bad he was.


Ok, but let's be honest here. Your post is idiotic, particularly the part about "he was injured, but...". I mean, that's so retarded it embarrasses retarded people.
 
Ok, but let's be honest here. Your post is idiotic, particularly the part about "he was injured, but...". I mean, that's so retarded it embarrasses retarded people.
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Kelvin Banks had a pretty good rookie year

2nd in the NFL among rookie offensive lineman

i wonder who #1 was? that team would be so lucky to get the best rookie left tackle in the NFL

oh wait....
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Not according to the lying eyes of the Pro Football Writers of America; they voted for Jete RT Armand Membou along with Banks for their All-Rookie team. They also voted for Xavier Watts as one of the two Safeties. And for our own TreVeyon Henderson & Andres Borregales as well, so Congratulations to them.
 
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Ok, but let's be honest here. Your post is idiotic, particularly the part about "he was injured, but...". I mean, that's so retarded it embarrasses retarded people.
Offensive linemen play through injuries pretty frequently yet there are a few recollections of anyone ever getting absolutely demolished like that
 
According to some of you here, Purdy's injury was no excuse and the QB should have been pilloried:


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According to pretty much everyone else on the planet, though, that injury was, in fact, a reason to not bash the QB, because most people understand that injuries can, in fact, matter.
 
...Let’s do the math. Just before the halftime show, the game had 137.8 million active viewers. In the next quarter hour, the show had 128.2 million viewers still tuned in. That’s a drop of 9.6 million people who physically tuned out – not just walked away from the tube to focus on snacks, socializing, or getting a quick nap while the break lasted. Nearly ten million people physically tuned out the NFL's show. One year earlier, viewers joined for the halftime show...

Nielsen: NFL Halftime Show Lost 9.6 Million Viewers
 
I would be surprised if many people would be unhappy if campbell had a matt light like career. would you be?
Not really. When you pick an LT at #4, your expectations are pretty damn high. This isn’t a position where it’s a total crapshoot.

Of course, I’d be somewhat happy with any player who can play over a decade with consistency and a fairly high-level of play. But we are very far away from that anyway..

Your question is kind of like asking a Chiefs fan if they were happy with Eric Fisher. I could see it going either way on that answer.
 
I would be surprised if many people would be unhappy if campbell had a matt light like career. would you be?

Too many people have elevated expectations about, well, everything. But here's a start:



View: https://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1783133659249193449


Note the high percentage at QB, which actually breaks down in approximate thirds (Great/Good enough/Bust), but gets a 46% rate here. That tells us that, in all likelihood, that 50% skews high as well (an elevated rate is not a surprise, since some teams will give the second contract in hopes of improvement, or just to avoid risking an inability to replace even a very average player for one reason or another). And Light was a very good LT for the Patriots, and he was a Pro Bowler multiple times and first team All Pro once, in 2007. So anyone who's actually unhappy with that level of play has ridiculous expectations.
 
Too many people have elevated expectations about, well, everything. But here's a start:



View: https://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1783133659249193449


Note the high percentage at QB, which actually breaks down in approximate thirds (Great/Good enough/Bust), but gets a 46% rate here. That tells us that, in all likelihood, that 50% skews high as well (an elevated rate is not a surprise, since some teams will give the second contract in hopes of improvement, or just to avoid risking an inability to replace even a very average player for one reason or another). And Light was a very good LT for the Patriots, and he was a Pro Bowler multiple times and first team All Pro once, in 2007. So anyone who's actually unhappy with that level of play has ridiculous expectations.

I guess I think about the draft differently from some others.whether a guy is a second round pick or a first round pick if he performs in such a way that he's a steady, good, reliable performer for ten plus years, I don't understand why anyone would be unhappy with that just judging by the rate in general of hitting on draft picks.
Maybe people are upset with who could have been picked instead, but there's no guarantee that that player would have done more for this team than the player who was chosen.
 
I guess I think about the draft differently from some others.whether a guy is a second round pick or a first round pick if he performs in such a way that he's a steady, good, reliable performer for ten plus years, I don't understand why anyone would be unhappy with that just judging by the rate in general of hitting on draft picks.
Maybe people are upset with who could have been picked instead, but there's no guarantee that that player would have done more for this team than the player who was chosen.


Yeah...

There's just far too much context (often ignored)t to be as dismissive as so many fans have gotten. Will Campbell struggled after his injury? He must suck then, and he's got to go. Meanwhile, Dante has come out and said that he'd keep him at LT. He's a bust if he's not an absolutely dominant LT? Well, he was taken in an historically weak draft where nobody was expecting him to be a Jonathan Ogden or Orlando Pace, and it was understood that he was a need pick with a lower "ceiling", so why should that change after the draft?
 
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