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It is not a particularly good thing to be going with the Green Bay/Cleveland offense and staff.
Yeah that gives me pause but it's something new around here. The West Coast offense we shall see
I just find it amusing that the offense that was producing Lombardis with a 40+ year old QB is considered outdated, while coaching personnel that's likely to be implementing an offense that hasn't produced since, basically, Aaron Rodgers SB win is being installed with almost no push back.
You're right, we should march down to Gillette and protest.
I meant that in terms of the media, though I would probably find the same thing over at the other Patriots sites, if I looked. There's a small amount of grumbling, but very little.
There does seem to be a general malaise surrounding the fan base. Most seem to be in a "whatever" state of mind. Not a healthy place to be.
So much has come out since Brady left that I think it's really dealt a body blow to the fans. It was largely just the most pro-Brady people who really saw what was going to happen. I think most people thought that Kraft and BB would be more capable of filling the void than they proved to be.
Ice_Ice_Brady
the executioner’s face is always well hidden
I think some people realized in 2020 that beyond the Brady debacle, there was no plan. A free agency frenzy in 2021 was not a plan but a response to having few homegrown players worthy of significant money. Kraft spun it into some big market advantage because of the future cap increase. That was the point where I realized we were fucked with that leadership team.
The thing is, those of us who were the most pro-Brady saw this coming, because it's all a product of things we'd been talking about, and we talked a lot about it during that 2019 season, when we could see that the bad drafts and FA work (among other things) had left the team in such dire straits that even Brady was struggling to drag it into the playoffs. Most everyone else dismissed those observations, even when we pointed out that a similar thing had happened in 2013.
They're not dismissing them now, but I think that the way it imploded last season just served as a real kick in the balls. And the entire generation of Patriots fans who'd never seen a truly bad team or losing season has nothing familiar to base reactions on.
Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't thinking about that but you're correct. There has been very little criticism from the media. I think most fans have been at least skeptical of the approach, post-BB firing, from there on it's been uninspiring. But we are already here at rock bottom, the question is do we stay here another year or two, or does this staff overhaul improve the team?
I do think there are reasons to be optimistic (really what else do we have) that this collection of coaches can be good. But we aren't going to know anything until they start adding talent. We can speculate on the system they'll run based on past jobs but we won't really know until we start seeing practice reports and maybe coach interviews where they may tell us what they'll run. Maybe they'll collaborate and come up with something cool. Even though there are Wolf connections there are connections to other good coaching tree's with the last couple guys they brought in. We'll see soon
Not a chance in hell because you have to sign him to a record breaking contract. Cowherd is retarded
tabmixer
SKOL!
you should be ashamed of yourself for even putting this scenario out in the ether.
Pats Top 10 Draft history
In fact, when looking at the number of selections the Patriots have made in each of the top 10 slots since 1970, their highest number of picks have come No. 1 overall. The Patriots have selected first four times since 1970. Those first overall selections include quarterback Jim Plunkett in 1971, defensive end Ken Sims in 1982, wide receiver Irving Fryar in 1984 and quarterback Drew Bledsoe in 1993.
The Pats have drafted fourth overall three times and landed defensive tackle Phil Olsen in 1970, guard John Hannah in 1973 and McGinest in 1994.
Their other top 10 selections include cornerback Mike Haynes in 1976 (fifth overall), defensive tackle Richard Seymour in 2001 (sixth overall), wide receiver Terry Glenn in 1996 (seventh overall), Singleton in 1990 (eighth overall), and linebacker Jerod Mayo and Agnew (10th overall) in 2008 and 1990, respectively.
Included among the Patriots top 10 overall selections are five Patriots Hall of Famers (Hannah, Haynes, Bledsoe, McGinest and Seymour) and three Pro Football Hall of Famers (Hannah, Haynes and Seymour).
Breaking those top 10 picks down by position, New England has drafted eight defensive players (two linebackers, three defensive tackles, two defensive ends and one defensive back) and five offensive players (two quarterbacks, two wide receivers and one guard).
TommyD420
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I think the bigger picture, that might not come to light fully until after this current administration has found its way out the door - is just how unwilling the ownership is to spend money, generally.
Free agency will provide a clearer picture on that.
HSanders
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goodell???? is he owning up to his bullshit or nah?
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