Lord Chevy
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Focusing more on the "3rd World People" statement, not religious affiliation.
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Lord Chevy
My point was that a bunch of central and south americans listening to the pope is meaningless. The pope has zero influence on countries with actual power.
Lord Chevy
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When was the last time the pope was a true Christian? Unwilling to bed to woke ideals, understood that correcting a sinner IS a form of love.
About 350 A.D.
Unfortunately for you:r assertion:
Italy is 8th in the world in GDP, Brazil is 10th, Spain is 12th and Mexico is 15th.
So your point was not only dismissive and arrogant. It was also wrong. You really need to stop allowing your hostility towards the Catholic church to blind you from the realities of its history and existence.
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GDP? Mexico, Brazil, Spain have nearly zero influence on us.
My hostility toward the roman church is that it is leading millions of Christians the wrong way.
That’s probably what Jesus would have wanted.
The description of Jesus' return in Revelation leads me to believe Roman church leadership are going to have a rough day.
Yeah, well, they’re an old institution. Old institutions almost always lose their ways. The ancient Israelites, who lost their status as His chosen people, can attest to that. The Catholic Church is going down that same path.
Long long since gone down that path. Martin Luther wasn't even the first to call out their antichrist evil. Just earlier protesters were killed.
And I will disagree with you vehemently about Israel. They didn't lose status as His chosen people. There is a large remnant who will return to God (and turn to Jesus) in end times.
Well, sure, but that ain’t right now. Anyone who comes back to Him, Jew, Gentile, or Muslim, will be welcomed. But, as of right now, their status is gone with the New Covenant. Believers in Christ are now the chosen people.
That's replacement theology and contradicted over and over in the Bible...
Romans 11:1-2
Romans 11:23
Romans 11:26
The entire message of Romans 11 is that Israel's rejection isnot totalnor final. And we've read about Israel being rejected over and over again in the Old Testament only to be accepted back. Because God is incapable of lying, thus breaking His covenant. One could argue that the Holocaust was Israel's own fault just as their captivity/slaughter by the Persians, Babylonians, etc was their fault for disobedience.
The entire book of Hebrews is meant to minister to Jews. And there are a number of verses warning Gentiles not to get haughty over being the chosen people now. We can just as easily be "benched" as the Jews have been.
It also mocks God's honesty and reliability. He made a lot of promises to Israel, to Abraham, that He never said He was revoking. Jews, like us, have the chose to accept Jesus. Many have and do. Many many many more WILL before end times. Scriptures say so.
I’ve never said their being rejected is total or final. Just that they are no longer His chosen people if they refuse to come to the Father through the Son. What the future holds is irrelevant in the here and now. That said, I hope they come to recognize Him as the Messiah. It’s a shame that it’s going His return for so many of them to repent.
You know my distaste for the political State of Israel.
I see a lot of Christians and even churches preaching that Jews are no longer God's chosen people. That just isn't so. So many Jews WILL accept Jesus. That is Bible prophecy. Just like when Israel was destroyed by the Babylonians. They were still God's chosen people. But God's patience had worn out.
God's patience really wore out around 400 BC with His final prophect Malachi. Malachi told of the coming of John the Baptist who would announce the arrival of the Messiah. And He went silent for 400 years while the Jews suffered. Then Jesus arrived. With Jesus' arrival, we were invited to share in God's covenant. We did not replace the Jews. We joined the Jews. For the first 100 years, the early Christians were simply Jews who followed Christ.
I believe it is dangerous to say God discarded Israel as His chosen people. It's saying God lied or He backtracked on His promises. The end times do all center around Jerusalem too.
Wll a relatively small percentage of Jews be saved? Yes. But that is no different than the Old Testament times of disobedience when entire generations were damned.
And consider this...a MUCH smalled percentage of Gentiles will be saved in the end. Who is chosen now?
I don’t think God has forsaken them at all. I do, however, believe that he thinks Satan has them right now. I think he’s been displeased with them before. I believe, based upon what happened at the Temple as Christ took his last breath, he’s been angry with them. As you said, he’s been absent from them before and he seems absent from them now as they attempt to fulfill the prophecy of becoming the Synagogue of Satan.You know my distaste for the political State of Israel.
I see a lot of Christians and even churches preaching that Jews are no longer God's chosen people. That just isn't so. So many Jews WILL accept Jesus. That is Bible prophecy. Just like when Israel was destroyed by the Babylonians. They were still God's chosen people. But God's patience had worn out.
God's patience really wore out around 400 BC with His final prophect Malachi. Malachi told of the coming of John the Baptist who would announce the arrival of the Messiah. And He went silent for 400 years while the Jews suffered. Then Jesus arrived. With Jesus' arrival, we were invited to share in God's covenant. We did not replace the Jews. We joined the Jews. For the first 100 years, the early Christians were simply Jews who followed Christ.
I believe it is dangerous to say God discarded Israel as His chosen people. It's saying God lied or He backtracked on His promises. The end times do all center around Jerusalem too.
Wll a relatively small percentage of Jews be saved? Yes. But that is no different than the Old Testament times of disobedience when entire generations were damned.
And consider this...a MUCH smalled percentage of Gentiles will be saved in the end. Who is chosen now?
People think I hate Jews. I don’t. I hate Zionists mostly because they’re going to bankrupt us to support them, but not every Jew is a Zionist. I worry about the soul of the Jews.
For those who are in denial about Rome being the enemy. And a source of evil.
View: https://x.com/gatewaypundit/status/1976279368293896654
View: https://x.com/gatewaypundit/status/1976279368293896654
They are very evil. Not Christian. Anyone deceiving in the name of God is going to be punished severely. They are just as screwed as the Roman scum.
Their only positive over Roman frauds is that at least they don't fund worldwide socialist leftist causes.
But yes, if there are saved people within EITHER congregation, it is in spite of the church not because of them. Both are leading people to hell.
